Disrupting the Status Quo: Challenging GOP Complacency and Campus Chaos | Episode 65

Former Milwaukee County Sheriff and 'America's Sheriff' David Clarke discusses his dissatisfaction with the national leadership of the Republican Party in this episode of the Straight Talk Podcast. He criticizes the party's inability to use power and advance conservative ideals in spite of the demands and efforts of its base. Sheriff Clarke contrasts the Republican Congress's stance with the more assertive political tactics of the Democrats, pointing to a lack of strong leadership within the party. In particular, he takes issue with the Democrats' inability to stop Hakeem Jeffries' influence in Congress and the ongoing financial assistance for Ukraine. The podcast also discusses the significance of grassroots movements, the necessity of providing Trump with greater support throughout his trial, and practical methods for suppressing political protests and college disruptions. Sheriff Clarke states his dedication to organizing grassroots conservatives in spite of obstacles and pushes for a more proactive, structured approach to promoting conservative standards.

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Chapters

• 1:23 Navigating Emotions: From Frustration to Action
• 3:10 Looking into Republican Party Frustrations
• 8:10 The Power Dynamics in Congress: A Closer Look
• 14:24 [Ad] The Ryan Samuels Show
• 15:11 (Cont.) The Power Dynamics in Congress: A Closer Look
• 18:26 The Unchanging Status Quo of Washington, D.C.
• 28:45 Supporting Trump: The Call for Street-Level Activism
• 38:32 The Call for Conservative Mobilization and Fundraising
• 40:32 The Struggle with Pro-Life Messaging and Political Support
• 45:30 Addressing Campus Disruptions: A New Strategy
• 57:32 Legal and University Responsibilities in Handling Protests

Transcript

1:23

Hi ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. You are listening to the Straight Talk Podcast with your host, former Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke. I start the podcast today a bit frustrated. And as you know, my position on frustration, it is a, I think it's a useless emotion, but it is a human emotion that will beset people at any given time for whatever reason, but it's a useless emotion. And what you want to do is you want to stop the frustration from turning into self pity. That's why I say it's a useless emotion because that's where frustration will lead to. What I always hope within myself, and it has to happen naturally, is for that frustration to turn to anger. Now some of you might say, well, you know, do you really want to be angry? Here's why I don't mind when that frustration turns to anger. Because with myself, anger leads me to I want to leap into action. So there's kind of a progression. You know, which is why I don't get bothered by the frustration, but I don't want to be overcome by it for too long. That you wallow in self pity. I hope within myself that it turns to anger, because that anger, for me, controlled anger I'm talking about, not to where you're impulsive and you do something stupid, or you do something out of character, and then you say, oh my gosh, why did I do that? I wasn't thinking. But I hope that that anger then spurs me into action. And here's where I'm frustrated. Once again, the Republican Party, I'm talking nationally more so than locally. I'm talking about the NRC, National Republican Committee, I'm talking about the elected Republicans in the Congress. So when I say the Republicans, I want to be specific. I'm not blaming all of you, or the people who generally vote Republican. Many of whom do not belong to the party. Most of whom do not belong to the party. But you've been there. You give money. You donate your time. You do the door knocking. You work on the registering new voters. You work at the phone banks. You do everything that is necessary and everything that the Republican, as a party, asks you to do. We need your help, they say. So we do all of that. We win some elections, I'm talking about the national level now, and we hope that it spurs change, right? Put them in positions of power in Washington D. C., control of the, one of the three branches, or all the three branches in government. And so we do all these things, we, we, give them some power in Washington, D. C. And like I said, we expect change. We expect a conservative agenda to move forward. And we, we expect some conservative ideals to start to take root, and to sprout, and to grow. To grow this movement. This conservative movement, not this republican movement. And then nothing changes. They're either afraid to use power, or they don't know how to use power. I think it's a little bit of both. Sometimes I think these elected leaders in the Congress, these Republican leaders are too nice. The Democrats play cutthroat politics. The Republicans, on the other hand, you know, you hear this stuff, uh, reaching across the aisle and bipartisanship and working together. You never hear the Democrats talk like that. And even if they do, they're lying. When Nancy Pelosi was the House Speaker, she steamrolled people, including people in her own party. If they dared, if they dared stray off the plantation, they were afraid of her. I'm not talking about the Republicans, I mean, we know they were afraid of her. I'm talking about members in her own party. So they walk lockstep. And when it comes to the Republicans, and I'm not talking about this, you know, working together and, you know, within the Republican Party. We don't have any leadership. We don't have effective leadership in the Congress. We haven't had it for a long time. I would suggest the last time we had an effective Republican speaker of the house was probably Newt Gingrich. That was in the, in the eighties. Boehner wasn't, Paul Ryan wasn't, McCarthy wasn't, and now Mike Johnson's not. We don't have effective leadership with the ability to get people together. I'm talking about the Republican. Members of Congress around a common theme of things that they need to advance, like less spending. Never happens. The debt ceiling's always raised. The continuing resolution always adds new spending and more spending. Nothing changes. So I come across this story, and I'm not surprised. I wasn't surprised when I saw it. Because we saw it during this last aid package, foreign aid package, where Ukraine was given another blank check, another 60 billion dollars. To fight an endless war. We saw it with raising the OR or the continuing resolution. We saw it to an extension for section 7 0 2 of the FISA. The FISA court that allows the government, the FBI and Intel agencies to spy on Americans on their electronic communications without a warrant as required by the United States Constitution. These are the thi this, this is just an example of some of the things we. expect to have happen? Because the goal, when you don't have all the levers of power because we hear that whining from the Republicans all the time on the Hill and that's what it is, it's whining. Well, we only control one half of, you know, of the of the three branches of government. You got a Democrat in the White House and you have Chuck Schumer in charge of the Senate. But we gave the Republicans the House. Yeah, smaller numbers than we had hoped for, you know, no red wave, which was the fault of the RNC, if you ask me, Republican National Committee. But we gave them the House of Representatives, why? Not to hear, well, we only have one half of the three branches of government. We gave them the House of Representatives to stop the Democrat agenda from continuing on. When you have Pelosi as Speaker, Schumer as the Senate Majority Leader, and Biden in the White House. The goal is to block, it's to act as a block on the Democrat agenda. Well, when you're voting for the stuff that Republicans want you to vote on, and in the way they want it, they were all in support of more billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine, and the Republicans obliged, but for a few, you know, and they're called troublemakers. No, they're the disruptors. That's what the goal is. When you don't have the power, you have to be a disruptor. Not go along with what the Democrats want. That's not why we put the Republicans in control of the House of Representatives. So, back to this story I come across. Here's the title of it. Some AP News, Associated Press. Hakeem Jeffries isn't Speaker yet, but the Democrat may be the most powerful person in Congress. How can this be? His party is not in control of the House. They're not whining about it, they're arm twisting. They're taking these weak Republicans, these weak kneed Republicans in the House of Representatives and arm twisting. So I'm going to read some excerpts from this column and I'll comment as I move through here. Without willing to gavel or holding a formal job laid out in the Constitution, Representative Hakeem Jeffries might well be the most powerful person in Congress right now. The minority leader of the House Democrats, it was Jeffries who provided the votes needed to keep the government running, despite opposition from House Republicans to prevent a federal shutdown. Why? What's wrong with a federal shutdown? We're supposed to, they're supposed to, the GOP acting as a block on federal spending. It's out of control. Not the same old thing. Then why did we give the Republicans a House of Representatives? That's where all spending bills have to start. That was a perfect position to block more federal spending. It was Jeffries who made sure Democrats delivered the tally to send 95 billion in foreign aid to Ukraine and other U. S. allies. It was Jeffries, let me read that again, who made sure Democrats delivered the tally of votes. And Jeffries, with the full force of House Democrat leadership behind him, decided this week his party would help Mike Johnson stay on the job rather than be ousted by far right Republicans led by Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene. So Johnson's being propped up by the Democrats, why? Because they know they control him. They don't mind having him as Speaker. They don't have enough in this session so far. Even if he's ousted, they don't have enough to, to, to make Jeffries the speaker. So Johnson has to rely on Democrat help to remain speaker. When did Pelosi ever have to rely on Republican help for anything? How powerful is Jeffries right now, said Jeffrey Jenkins, a public policy professor at the University of Southern Cal, who has written extensively about Congress. That's significant power. He's the minority leader! The decision by Jeffries and the House Democrat leadership team to lend their votes to stop Johnson's ouster provides a powerful inflection point in what has been a long political season of dysfunction, stalemate, and chaos in Congress. That's what we want! Not the dysfunction part. The disruption and the chaos to stop the Democrat agenda of more spending. The Democrats are never against. And these CRs? And the, the, the debt ceiling, they're never against reduced spending. They're never against keeping the government running. Why? Because the money tree, because the money keeps flowing, and more money, more spending. So they all, oh, we got to keep the government open. No, we don't. So it says here, Jeffrey said that with House Republicans unwilling or unable to get the extreme MAGA Republicans under control, it's going to take a bipartisan coalition and partnership to accomplish that objective. When did Pelosi ever speak like that? When they were in charge. And let me, let me say that again. Jeffries said that with House Republicans unwilling or unable to get the extreme MAGA Republicans under control. Why aren't the Republicans asking Jeffries to get his extreme wing of the leftists? The ones rioting on college campuses right now, the ones who were rioting during the Black Lives Matter. Why weren't Republicans asking the Democrats, get your loonies under control? But all Republicans have to get MAGA under control. So it says, uh, But in Jeffrey's case, the minority leader position has come with enormous power. He's operating as a shadow speaker on all important votes, said Representative Jayapal, Democrat Washington, chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. That's the extreme wing of the Democrat Party. So we sit here with the Republicans in control of the House of Representatives and the Democrat agenda continues to roll, and then you wonder why I'm frustrated. This was a waste of time. This is becoming a waste of time because nothing in Washington DC changes. Judge it says here, while Johnson Steel Marshals, the powerful tools of the speaker's office. A job outlined in the Constitution and second in line in succession to the presidency, the Republican led House has churned through a tumultuous session of infighting and upheaval that has left their goals and priorities stalled out. They never had any goals or priorities. What were they? Johnson before and even after he was named Speaker said, no more money for Ukraine. And he said, 702 to allow The federal government to spy on American citizens, their electronic communications without a warrant. That's what he said. That was the goal. And then he turned and he went against it. He voted to extend 702 and he voted to give Ukraine 60 billion more dollars. So what does this story mean when it says has left their goals and priorities stalled out? They stall them out themselves. So, you know, it's just amazing that a Republican speaker of the it's relying on. Democrats to keep him in power, but he's not relying on Democrats to move any Republican agenda forward. He's not relying on Democrats to vote against the CR. He's not relying on Democrats to stop raising the debt ceiling without some spending reductions. Sure you got to raise the debt ceiling, but it has to include spending reductions, not spending increases. So now here's from Pelosi on Jeffries. Jeffries is a quietly confident operator positioning himself and his parties as purveyors of democratic norms amid the Republican thunderclap of Trump era disruption. That's what we like about Trump. He's a disruptor. So Pelosi said in an interview that Jeffries, as the minority leader, has always had leverage because of the slim House majority. Meaning the Republicans. Slim majority. But it's still the minority! And when the Republicans are in the minority, They had no leverage, no power, none. They didn't have a Hakeem Jeffries, who behind the scenes was, you know, utilizing the leverage that they did have. We don't have sharp tacticians in these positions like the damn Democrats do. We don't have a James Carville on the outside being a disruptor, a cutthroat tactician. We got all nice guys, all these former, these guys. Goofs these country club Republicans. So here's a quote from Pelosi on Jeffries But it's a question of him showing that he's willing to use it meaning the leverage he has. Yes that he's willing and Able to use it. Why aren't our leaders the Republicans showing any willingness or Ability to use the power being in control of the House of Representatives. They're letting Jeffries run it So it says here, Jeffries has been masterful, she said Pelosi, at securing Democrat priorities. See that? At securing democrat priorities, they're not in control of the house That's why we gave control to the republicans to be a block on the democrat priorities And they're not doing it But Pelosi disagreed with the idea that democrats lending support to Johnson at this juncture creates some sort of new coalition era of US politics our house functions because we're willing to be bipartisan in making it function No, she's not She ramrodded things through. Remember Obamacare? Was that bipartisan? And I could name some other things if I need to. Where she didn't give a damn about how Republicans felt. Remember Obama's"elections have consequences"? It's no bipartisan. I don't even I don't vote to send Republicans to Congress to work together with anybody other than Republicans, and on the Republican agenda. This is extremely disheartening. Extremely. We got a Republican House Speaker who's only there because the Democrats want him there. Why? Because he's easy. To steamroll, and you're wondering why nothing changes in Washington, D. C., no matter who's in party, who, what party is in power. This is, status quo prevails. Same old, same old. Nothing changes. The spending remains out of control. The government regulations continue to increase. The more government in control of our lives. And that's why I started out talking about, you know, you've done the work. You've gone out and done these things necessary to give Republicans a power and then you go out and you vote and then Nothing changes and I don't think it'll be any different going into 20 the November election Yeah, the GOP takes over the Senate and I say if because there are no guarantees I don't care what the polls are saying and I don't care that more Democrats are up then I don't care about all that crap. If the Democrats take over the Senate, you know, what? Chuck Schumer will still be running the Senate, as the Senate Minority Leader, instead of the Senate Majority Leader. Chuck Schumer will be running the Senate, and should Trump, Trump, President Trump be returned to office, try as he might, the Deep State, which includes the media and every, all these other leftist entities, they'll be running things. Trump will be fighting uphill, and the Democrats are gonna know, we only gotta wait this guy out for about three years. It's all we gotta do and we can do that because they understand that the goal is to block, to be a block against any Republican agenda getting any traction. They understand that. It's not to get anything done. It's to be a block. And yeah, if you get blamed for shutting down the government and all this, who cares? Your job is to block, not to work together. None of this bipartisan BS. Block the Democrat agenda. Wow. You know, it's no re, there's no reason, it's easy to understand why many people in this country, and it's more on our side, they just bail out of the process. They say, what the hell with it? I went out, I voted, I did this, I wrote my check, you know, and I, whatever, and nothing changes. And people, they just bail out, they say, what the hell with it? Those are the people that Trump cultivated, the forgotten man, they say, the forgotten voter, that was in the heartland. They It was in G. O. P. country. And they saw a guy they believed in. And they went on and got him elected. And what happened? The Democrats said, well, it was a false election. Trump colluded with the Republicans, with the Russians to steal the election. Now they're talking about us, what, being election deniers? And insurrectionists? Unbelievable. But then when they win, oh, our elections are good. You know, fair and honest. No, they aren't. Our election system in the United States has been corrupt. It's been co opted. Speaking of Trump, a couple of minutes here on the Trump situation with this trial in New York, and I'm not going to get into the trial itself and what's going on because I haven't paid attention cause I don't really care. I already know it's fake. I already know that it's corrupted. I already know it's election interference. Why should I pay attention to that? I know what's going on. You know what's going on. Anyway, as the sham of a trial goes on, story from NBC News, Trump grumbled he needed more support at trial and now his allies are showing up. I've talked about this in other aspects of our side, conservative side, Republican side, of our inability and our unwillingness to get in the streets, to take to the streets, to protest, to protest. To push back against all of this nonsense going on by the Democrats in terms of corrupting our institutions, weaponizing our institutions against people whose views they disagree with, the Democrats. They disagree with our views and so they've weaponized government to come after us. And I've talked about this in other aspects too, of our unwillingness to get in the street. Where's the support for Israel? We sit up here watching all these pro Palestinian Nonsense. Thousands of people. All over the country. In the streets. Not sitting back on social media with funny little memes and, you know, back and forth. That's ineffective in political warfare. There is a place for it as a tactic, but it can't be your main one. You have to be willing to take to the streets and show your support. During that January 6th nonsense, we should have had thousands every day. Around that federal courthouse in Washington D. C., protesting the denial of due process to those individuals under arrest. Blatant denial of due process. And we just kind of, you know, like I said, you know, we bitch for a little while, and we, you know, complain, and then we just go, move on. Move on. Should have shown support for those people. They would have heard about it behind those walls, of the courtrooms, but not us. We're above that. That's the attitude, the arrogant attitude of too many on our side. Trump getting steamrolled and what we know is, is wrong, just plain wrong, and I'm not talking about morally, I'm talking about constitutionally. And Trump has to ask people, To show up to support him at trial. This trial is happening in New York city. We should be able to get a couple thousand, I don't care if it's 500, but it can't be 10, we should be able to get several hundred or a thousand people to show up every day during this trial with your signs and protests and chanting free Trump, free Trump, you know, just, you know, a campaign of menace like the left does on these college campuses. But we can't, Trump's got to ask. It says here, in the first two weeks of his hush money criminal trial, Trump largely sat alone, without allies. He listened to strangers deliver stinging criticism and former friends reveal unflattering details. And he grew frustrated, convinced his supporters could be doing more to help him. Right! He complained that no one is defending me, according to a source who is familiar with some of the former president's private conversation. He grumbled outside the courtroom that there were no protesters supporting him outside. That's what I'm talking about. Where the hell are you? And I'm not saying if you don't live in New York, I mean I'm not driving to New York to do this. We have enough resources and people in New York who should be doing it. If nothing else, we should be staging our own protests in each of our states outside New York. The federal building, outside the federal building, in each of these states. You don't have to go to New York. Make your signs, bring your megaphones, and get out there, damn it, and show support for this former president. The jurors will hear that stuff. They're not living in a vacuum even though they're sequestered. They're not living in a vacuum. They're watching the TV when they go back to their hotel rooms. They're reading the newspapers even though they're told not to. They don't, you know, you really think that works? They don't. That people are going to be, like, living in this vacuum. But they'll sure see the protests outside when the left's out there and they become afraid. And then you get jury nullification because they don't want to get blamed for acquitting some police officer. This is pathetic. Trump has to beg for support. And I'm talking about in the streets, not on social media. So it says here, On Tuesday there were signs that his allies are listening to his concern. Trump's son Eric joined him in court. The first time a family member had appeared with him for the trial. That's pathetic too. And you know me, there's no sacred cause. I know Eric personally. I know Don Jr. personally. They're always on the news. They're always on the, you know, Fox News or Newsmax or whatever. That isn't where you get it done. One of these two guys should have been in court. It's your father on trial looking at going to prison for heaven's sakes. wrongfully, potentially wrongfully convicted. It's your dad between Ivanka and Don jr. And Eric, somebody should have been in that courtroom every single day to let the jury see he's got his family's support at least, and I'm not saying that they don't support them. You can't do it from a Fox news studio. There's only a couple of hundred thousand people that watch that crap. There's 350 million people in the United States. If they showed up in court every day and then they could, you could take turns. I know they can't sit there for six months and, but you know, you got to take turns then. Okay, I'll take this week. Yeah, I could take next week. I could, you know, Ivanka, I could take the week after that. Don Jr. Okay, I could take this week. And then get some of these other people involved. Where are they? All these people that want to be vice president. Where are they? And this is also with him for the first time Tuesday. For the first time Tuesday, this trial has been going on for what, two, three weeks? Including the picking of the jurors? Also with him for the first time Tuesday were his strategist and de facto campaign chief, Susie Wiles, and longtime advisor Dan Scavino. But Trump had to ask for it! There are some other people here who are talking about showing up. Campaign staff will be mobilizing the Trump side, the source said. Traveling more frequently to New York as he wraps up his campaigning while out of court. Trump has complained for days that there were no protesters assembled outside the courthouse blaming the lack of support on New York police. Falsely asserting that protesters were being prohibited from gathering outside the building, police have set aside a designated zone across the street and a part for protesters. On Tuesday, the largest crowd of Trump supporters yet assembled in the morning. So again, you know, it's just my gosh, when are we going to get off our asses? And I've tried, I started a nonprofit rise up Wisconsin. And one of the things that I have to do is raise money. You, it takes money to organize this stuff. I talk about it over and over and over. I got office lease. I got insurance. I have a board of directors. I have a 501 C four. You have to buy insurance. For the board of directors to protect them against lawsuits. That costs money. If we're going to travel, we've got to have office supplies. They're going to have a staff. This is how the left organizes. They're very organized and it's all taken care of. So I wanted to help organize grassroots conservatives. Costs money. And it's been very difficult raising money. Go to my website. Instead of writing a check to the RNC, write it to RiseUpWisconsin. Visit riseupwisconsin. org to learn more. I'm trying to organize. I've had several rallies. And you know what? The turnout has been pretty pathetic. It can't get our side to want to take to the streets. Well, we're too busy. We have jobs. We Oh, I get tired of the excuses. I really do. You know, and this leads to frustration, too. And then I ask myself, David, why even do this? I'm not doing it for me! So I wasn't surprised at that article. I really wasn't. Because I've been talking about it in terms of all this stuff. I go, Where are we? Why aren't we in the streets? Protesting this stuff. All of it. The pro life people. I mean Republicans are getting crushed over this abortion issue. Republicans Running for office. I don't get any help from the pro life people. Pro life not running any ads. I got a Fundraising letter from pro life Wisconsin the other day. I'm not giving him a dime. Why don't they organize a pro choice rally? Them. I don't see the ads on TV or on the radio for pro life. I hear the pro choice ones. I see them. They're in the streets. They're whacking Republican candidates around with their position on murdering babies, and we don't have a counter message? You know, taking their candidates and smearing them with, you know, he supports a Infanticide. Use words like that. Pro life. I mean, it's kind of hard for me as an example. I support the pro life movement, but at the same time, and it's, it's Purest sense. I don't know if I'm pro life. What do I mean by that? I support the death penalty. People, people bring that up every once in a while. How can you say you're pro life, you support death penalty? Damn right I do. I just say that's different. It's a different subject. I don't run from it, and I don't start to dance. Well, you know, uh, yeah, I, uh, no, you're damn right I do. I support the death penalty. Kill a cop should be sentenced to die. But there's due process protections for people on trial before we execute them. Babies don't have due process rights. Fetuses don't have due process rights. I believe they should have. That's the difference. See, I can explain this and people still don't have to agree. Well, you're not really pro life, why don't you call me whatever you want to call me. I can compartmentalize this stuff. If an infant or a fetus had due process rights, well then maybe we could have a discussion about some of this stuff. But they don't. Summarily executed. In the womb. Defenseless. A person on trial for murder is not defenseless. They have counsel. They can fight this stuff, they have constitutional protections, we don't give that to feeds. I can easily justify, it's not hypocritical for me to be pro death penalty and pro life. Man, you wonder what leads to my frustration. I gotta, you know, all week, I sit here and watch this stuff happen and listen to it, pay attention to it, and prepare for these podcasts. I enjoy doing it, but for heaven's sakes when I read about some of the crap going on from our side. It's like, why bother? I'm not getting rich off this podcast. Not at all. My time is valuable. I take time to prepare. I put it together. The content. I could be doing something else too. You know, you hear all these excuses from people on, well, we got jobs and we got busy lives. Well, so do I, but some things are more important than me. And my interests, what about the interests of a fetus? How about the interests of saving this damn republic from its destruction from within? And speaking of that, I want to move into this, another chapter, if you will, of these, these campus disruptions. And you notice I said disruptions because here's what I'm tired of, of having happen. I've talked about it on this podcast. We have to stop using the left's language. We need to come up with our own language. These are not protests. And every time this comes up, I got a Wall Street Journal in front of me. Headline, universities struggle to end campus protests. These aren't protests. And every time I hear a news segment on it, they talk about campus protests. Here's another one from the AP, Associated Press. Nearly 2, 200 people have been arrested during pro Palestinian protests on U. S. college campuses. These aren't protests. You know what they are? They're acts of organized lawlessness and disorder. That's what they are. They're not protests. This is not constitutionally protected activity. Not with what they're doing. It's not. Because when you use the word protest, you know, we all are kind of sympathetic to the, our First Amendment protection and the First Amendment protection of, you know, these mindless numbskulls here. Well, you know, the, yeah, we want people to, and I hear people qualifying that crap all the time. Please stop. You know, every time somebody's interviewed, some politician or whatever, well, we support people's right to protest. We all know that. We're not talking about protest. Start out by calling it what it is. What we're talking about here are acts of lawlessness and disorder. Those are not constitutionally protected. And then the way this stuff works, because I know the model, I talked about it in the last podcast, this book I go to for my advice, it was given to me by a former retired now deceased CIA agent, that studied these protest movements in the United States in the 60s. It's the same tactics, and right now they're trying to make the police out to be the bad guys. Cause they're the ones clearing them out. And you know what started it again? Defund the police. Demands have put up their ugly heads again. Out of this movement. Calls for defunding police. Talking about police brutality and all this nonsense. Get your ass out of there. And you won't have that problem. So we're seeing some life. Some of these colleges and universities, they understand they got a tiger by the tail here and they're going to have to do something early. Because these things grow, they don't, unless you make them stop, they don't stop. You gotta make them stop. You gotta make it not worth their while. You have to change their calculus that, you know, it ain't worth, it ain't worth going down to the square today because schools are expelling students and I don't want to get expelled. People are going to jail. I don't want to go to jail. Police are hurling tear gas. I don't want to get gassed. I'm not in it for this. And over time, you know what? You'll wear them down. Get rid of these encampments. You cannot let an encampment spring up. That's a base of operation. That's very important for them to see some piece of property as, or area as theirs. It's not theirs. It belongs to the school. And for these public institutions, it belongs to the taxpayers. Those are publicly owned assets. Those aren't yours. They're on loan to you while you go to school there and abide by the school rules on student conduct. So then, you know, like I said, a couple of agencies, NYPD is starting to get more assertive. I like to see that. LAPD, it's assertive at the University of California, Los Angeles, UCLA. It's time to crack heads. That's what you gotta do. You can't be afraid to use force, and you have to use it early on. And I don't mean heavy force early on, but you can't just get there and stand there and watch and all this. When you get called in, even if it's a private institution, you get called in, the on scene commander has to go and talk to the university president, the president, not some underling, and say, what exactly do you want here? We want to be clear. And if they don't tell you, look, we want our property back. We want these people out of here. They're violating our policies. We want them cleared out. Okay, that's, that's unambiguous. We can take, we can take care of that. But if they start to dance and, well, you know, we, we, appreciate, you know, these young people and their right to pro and all that stuff. You know what you need to do? Look, when you come up with something clear that we can enforce, because we enforce the laws. We're not guardians. We're not gonna stand around and watch and monitor. It's not what we do. So when you're clear on that, maybe go talk to your board or whatever and then get back to us. And then order your cops out of there. Because when a crap hits the fan, and a higher level of force has to be used, and it may have to be, when you're an initial one, you need to declare an assembly, an unlawful assembly. That's what these are. Remember, these aren't pros. This is an unlawful assembly. And when that happens, and they don't move, tear gas. and pepper spray, and bean bags, and make them move. First you ask them to move. You leave immediately. This is unlawful. We're declaring an unlawful assembly. You have, in Wisconsin law anyway, you have to declare it, and law enforcement has to declare an unlawful assembly. So you do that, and when they don't move, you go to the next level of force. That's why I said you might need a higher level. The tear gas will make them move. Trust me. Pepper spray, the bean bags, less than lethal. Okay, that'll make them move. And then those that A lot of them will leave right away. When that stuff happens, they're like, I'm out of here, man. I didn't get into this for that. I didn't know they were going to do that. Some of these students are surprised. Well, we didn't know they were going to do that. Well, you know now, which is why it's important. You have a small window early on. Make it clear you are leaving your way or my way. My way ain't so pretty, but you can walk out of here with your dignity and on your own. And the ones that want to hang on and fight through the tear gas, well, those are the ones you arrest. And then you, you can't make the school, but you can advise the school, Hey, we think that these people who are here doing this and we've identified them, we've arrested them. We think they need to be expelled. Discipline in some sort of way. Because arrest will only go so far. We have a no bail policy in New York, so we take them and then we turn to the fight. So, what they're learning as this goes on here, nearly half of anti Israel student Protesters, here's that word, arrested at Columbia and CCNY, City College of New York. They weren't students. Right. You shouldn't be surprised. These are street fillers. That's what they're called in this, this, this movement. Street fillers. They're just trying to fill the streets. This is an organized effort. They start shipping people in and encouraging other people to come out and join the fight. Join the struggle. So you get street fillers. When those people are identified, it's a better way to do this. than to just simply issue them a summons or give them a municipal court date. So I put together this, I don't know, an outline of how to effectively deal with this because you need more tools than the police and the schools are using now. So I'll just go through this thing here as to a stair step approach, utilizing all the resources available to you, you know, as the school and as the government, the police, the cities, using all resources, throw everything at them. Not just some municipal summons. That's a joke to these people. A lot of those things will be dismissed anyway. So here's my white paper on it, to doing my further research and what can be done here. First of all, please stop referring to these as student protests. It is important to classify these illegal activities occurring on college campuses for what they are. They are not protected activities under the First Amendment. These are acts of lawlessness and disorder and should be ended immediately. Illegally blocking ingress and egress to buildings, noise that disrupts classes and residential areas around the school, is a public nuisance. Occupying a building or space on university property is an illegal activity. A college or university is not a sanctuary for lawlessness. If and when police are called in, they must act immediately to restore order. That's job one, ladies and gentlemen. Restore order. I'm seeing too much patty cake being played. With these lawbreakers. Declare an unlawful assembly and clear the area of people refused and a proper measured and controlled application of all the force that is necessary to make a move should be deployed to get them to leave. If people start to throw objects at police, a higher level of force should immediately be deployed to keep things from spiraling into a full blown riot. This includes tear gas and other less lethal options. A riot can be prevented and officers protected from injury by an early shock of force. To delay this is an abdication of police responsibility. This originally occurred on a few campuses and spread quickly because of inaction by university officials. These events start with a few students, but have a drawing effect by other troublemakers who are street filling non students because of their irresistible impulse. That these petulant spoiled brats who want to be part of something. Now here's the university responsibility. See, I took the time and I thought this out and I broke it down. There's two aspects here. Here's the university responsibility. Leniency by school officials on students who are involved in this disorder and lawlessness can be held to civil liability suits from taxpayers, area residents, and non involved students. The legal rights of non involved students whose education is adversely affected by this lawlessness and disorder perpetrated on college campuses must have their lawful interests protected. So they're canceling commencement ceremonies, ladies and gentlemen, for these students who are non involved. You know, they're students of the school, but they're not involved in this crap. Now their commencement, they don't get to enjoy walking across the stage for the fruits of their labor for however many tens of thousands of dollars of debt and all the time spent studying. They don't get to enjoy the fruits of their labor. I'd file a suit against the school for cancelling the commencement exercises. Students who are only interested in getting an education should sue universities for failing their fiduciary responsibility by not doing enough to protect their interests. They have a right to a safe place to obtain an education. This includes civil rights violations. Students who are not expelled could be the basis for a taxpayer lawsuit because Of the failure to act constitutes a misuse of funds by the school. At private colleges, donors should sue to get their money returned. Injunctions should be sought against any university not ensuring the personal safety of uninvolved students and faculty. University officials should curtail the salary of professors for not fulfilling their teaching obligation because of their personal beliefs in support of dissident students or when they themselves are involved in the lawlessness and disorder. And we've seen that, professors down there joining in. A faculty member who engages or encourages illegal acts are in breach of their contract and should be fired. Actively interfering with the rights of others should be prosecuted under the Federal Civil Rights Act. Any non student, remember all these, I was reading about these people who are non students. Any non student involved, who has been shipped in to participate, or have traveled, In, as part of an organized effort, are subject to federal criminal prosecution for prohibited travel and interstate commerce to promote disorder. That's a federal crime! This includes the funders of this organized chaos. Remember when Kamala Harris, during Black Lives Matter, was raising money to bail these people out? She could be charged criminally. See, we're not utilizing everything. We have to utilize everything in our disposal. A campaign of menace. That'll put an end to this stuff. And if not, it's just gonna keep going on and on and on and on. There's a way to effectively restore order, maintain order, and once you take those encampments down, you got to post those areas overnight with a cop to make sure that overnight they don't come and set them up again because that's happened at several of these universities or colleges. They've come back overnight and set their tents back up. Dan, if somebody posted on that square that, you know, in the middle of the campus, make sure they don't come back overnight. This is doable in short order, and it's necessary. Thanks for listening.