The Importance of Grassroots Movements and Strategies for Effective Resistance | Episode 46

In this episode of Straight Talk Rewind, originally aired on June 27, 2023, Sheriff David Clark discusses the need for well-organized, serious, and peaceful resistance movements. He emphasizes the importance of ground-level, grassroots campaigns over relying on Republican political leadership. Clarke uses the 2018 Cliven Bundy-led protest at a Nevada ranch as an illustration of effective resistance. Protesters there peacefully but firmly opposed the Bureau of Land Management's overreach. He advocates for peaceful demonstration tactics such as mass gatherings, continuous occupation of public spaces, rotation systems for sustained participation, and capturing every unjust act on camera. Sheriff Clark concludes by urging listeners to be patient and determined, explaining the effectiveness of wearing down governmental resources.

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[00:00:00] Friends, I'm happy to announce that Straight Talk has partnered with Blue Line Roasting Company to bring you delicious coffee to enjoy while you listen to this podcast. Blue Line Roasting Company also serves our first responders by giving a portion of all net proceeds to numerous organizations who support them.

Order today at bluelineroasting. com. That's bluelineroasting. com. And don't forget when you join the straight shooter VIP club, you'll receive a free coffee sample and a mug plus invitations to private podcast events. . What do we do? Remember, the question was, this is a challenge to you. I'm going to challenge this audience a lot, because I need fighters. Remember my column that I read that I wrote in 2018 What do we do? Remember, the question was, this is a challenge to you. I'm going to challenge this audience a lot, because I need fighters. Remember my column that I read that I wrote in 2018 for townhall. com? And I was a [00:01:00] contributing writer for townhall. com. Wanted new conservative fighters. Just put that in a search engine, look it up if you forgot, and read it.

I laid it out right there. We don't have fighters, I said. Looking at this crop of Republicans and some of these blowhard talking heads. They're useless. What we need is a ground level force, I said, unlike we've ever seen. Grassroots. Bottom up. Not top down. Not these Republican leaders down, who, who basically turn their nose up at us at grassroots level.

We need fighters, and we need them fast. I said we need to mobilize quickly. Because I, you know, I'm not gonna say the, the, the Republic is slipping away from us. The Republic is [00:02:00] Gone.

All it comes down to now is how we're gonna get it back. So one of the things that we have to learn how to do, and I laid it out in that, but we're gonna walk through it again in that article, uh, Wanted New Conservative Fighters. We have to learn how to resist at ground level, peacefully. There's a way to do it.

Well, you're basically taunting the government. Because the government knows, well, we can't really crush this thing. Because it won't look good on the world stage if the government is beating and killing its own citizens who are protesting under the First Amendment. It will not look good and they know it.

So we gotta count on that. I support civil disobedience. That's peaceful. But you gotta be willing to go to jail.[00:03:00] 

It's just gonna be temporary if it's peaceful because you won't move.

The biggest mistake that the January 6th group, remember I said that was neither serious Well thought out, or well organized. You must be organized. Everywhere I go, the first step, people say, What should we do? What can we do, Sheriff? Organize, organize, organize. You must be organized. You must have a plan.

And the first thing you must do before you go out and operationalize the plan, you have to build a critical mass of people to go along with you. You can't do it with a couple hundred people. It won't work. You want to overwhelm government's ability to be able to contain this thing. You want to overwhelm government [00:04:00] resources.

So if you only got a couple hundred, hell, they just bring a thousand cops down and that's the end of that. When you show up with 10, 000 people like they did in Sri Lanka, where 250, 000 people, citizens of Sri Lanka, surrounded the presidential palace. And when you see some of the protests going on in France, millions, they're protesting the changes in their social security, millions, that's a critical mass.

50 people is not a critical mass. A couple dozen, a couple hundred is not a critical mass. So you have to be patient. It's going to take time. You're going to have to message effectively to get people to, to develop the nerve to say, yeah, I want to be part of this. Piss on it.

So you have to start with that. [00:05:00] And there's a way to, uh, on how to effectively resist. First of all, you have to take to the streets. You cannot do this, ladies and gentlemen, simply from behind a keyboard, posting on social media. That's a tactic you can use, but that's only one tactic, and this is part of it.

This has to happen in the streets. 250, 000 surrounding the presidential palace in Sri Lanka, and they had to airlift the president out of there. That's taking to the streets. This can't be done in a think tank. All of these know it alls, the Bill Crystals and all those goofs. From inside the safe space of a think tank.

Or going into a TV studio. That's not where this thing is going to get done. It's not where it's going to be won. Think of the Civil Rights Movement. It started in the church. But they had to take it to the [00:06:00] streets to make it more effective. You can't do this from inside the church. Talking about how wrongs, you know, the discrimination.

Yeah, I know, but you know what? There's only a few people in there. When they took it to the streets,

now all of America could see. When King was peacefully marching, all of America was looking. People joined in. And when the police were turning, Water cannons and sicking dogs on peaceful protesters. The American viewers vomited. They couldn't believe this. For peaceful protesters. But they had large numbers.

Huge marches. Peaceful. I'm gonna keep saying that. I hearken back to the January 6th crowd. Excuse me. There was no need to breach the Capitol. There just wasn't. [00:07:00] They had the right idea, but they weren't well thought out, they weren't organized, and they didn't really have a plan. So it wasn't well planned.

All they needed to do was take the, you know, few hundred people, however many showed up, I don't know, and just get near the Capitol. Stay outside. In the places around the Capitol, and there are a lot of them, the public's allowed. Rally, marches, speeches.

There was no need to go inside the Capitol. That's where they turned America against them.

So it blew up in their faces. You know, this thing was led by a couple of goofs anyway. The guy with the horns, you know, that's not serious.[00:08:00] 

So I come across this article. I've had this thing for a long time. This goes back to 2021. June of 2021. I used this at a speaking event I was at. To give people an idea of how to resist effectively. So I pulled it out for this podcast. I don't need to reinvent the wheel. Somebody already invented the wheel.

I'm just gonna use the wheel.

So I'm gonna read some sections on this and then we're gonna go into this thing operationalize. It happened in Nevada and you'll probably recognize when I read from that story how this went down and don't forget that was from back in I don't know 20 18 maybe, but we'll get to that. So here, Stu Servick, [00:09:00] redstate.

com, how to resist effectively,

says here, to roll over and simply acquiesce to this nonsense, and that's this democrat movement, is unthinkable. But what passes for Republican leadership in Congress these days is timid. feckless and disorganized, which is why I said you cannot count on your elected representatives in Congress to do anything for you.

We need a grassroots bottom up resistance movement.

While they can and should be constantly pressured to take action and to at least institute a coordinated Inconsistent media campaign, they cannot be relied upon to reverse the Democrats push toward full fledged socialism and communism. It's long past time for everyone who wishes to preserve the Republic to take concrete actions, and that means [00:10:00] doing so at the local level.

There is no need, ladies and gentlemen, for everybody to rush to Washington DC This should happen within your own community, within your own state. And grow it. So it says here, The communication networks established at the local level are the means by which Democrat media can be bypassed. Let me stop there.

Stop whining about CNN, the New York Times, the Washington Post, and how the liberal media, you know, they're not helping us, and they're not objective. No, they're on the left side. They've been co opted. But there's a way to get around that. So it says here, yes we can resist and we can do so productively.

Non violent [00:11:00] resistance is both possible and effective and success breeds success. Let me say that again. Non violent resistance is both possible and effective. Non violent protests have been successfully used by the left to achieve their political goals. We can do it better. What is required is organized persistence.

Patients and tactics that can make a difference. Simple stuff, including a basic understanding of the concept of active resistance and passive resistance. Methodologies that can be applied in neighborhoods, precincts, churches, and local civics organizations. So then it goes through here, it goes through some of the uh, tactics.

There's a difference between tactics and strategy. Remember I said, yeah, social media, okay, that's a tactic, that's not a strategy. So they talk about using flyers, includes the use of accusatory text that puts the left on a defensive.[00:12:00] 

What else they got here? Leaflets. Cameras everywhere. Encourage conservatives to have a smartphone or camera at hand and capture and record every situation in which a leftist actor is out of line. Download and disseminate the files with context to conservative and liberal media sites and social media.

Catch every little asinine, contemptible, illegal act. The left wing activists, activists engaging. See, you can get around the New York Times and the Washington Post and CNN. So it goes through here and some other things that can be done, scouting like programs. Support neighborhood clubs, social organizations, and churches that promote old school freedoms.

So there's a way to do this. It's grassroots, it's ground level. All it takes, it says here, is a little organization, a little ingenuity, tailored to [00:13:00] local conditions, and a few highly motivated people. Run for some of these offices or at least actively find and support candidates who are constitutional conservatives with a goal of getting rid of all crackpot lefties and rhinos it says.

Let's get rid of them.

So that's just kind of like the Reader's Digest of the model of effectively resisting. That's what we're going to have to do. Stop your whining and stop your bitching

and start to organize. Build a critical mass. It's going to take time, it's going to take a little money. But basically what it takes is determination. See, we give up too easy.

What the January 6th people should have done, they should have, they really felt they needed to march to the Capitol. I don't know that they had to do that. They could have stayed at the mall where speeches were being given. And then just stay there. But even, let's say, okay, [00:14:00] they marched to the Capitol.

Stay outside of the Capitol. Set up a tent city. Just give the impression we're not going anywhere.

You gotta play the long game politically. You can't do a one day protest and then go home never to be heard from again. That's what the government is counting on. Well, just, you know, let them, let them scream and holler a little bit. They'll be gone. They'll get hungry at the end of the day and they'll go home.

That's not what the left does. You must let the government know we're staying. Put up a tent city. And then bring in reinforcements. Because I know some people, you know, you can't go in and spend, everyone can't spend three, four, five days there. You don't have to. Come in shifts. Okay, a new group of people coming in tomorrow at noon.

Then you guys get to go home. Thanks, but, you know, stay, stay close because, uh, we're gonna need a rotation here. See, that's organization. I say you gotta be organized. You gotta have a critical mass of people. Cause I know people have [00:15:00] jobs and they can't do this all day and every day. I get it. So you need a rotation system.

Bringing in new people. Put up a tent city. Media covering. Trust me. Chants. Bullhorns. Speeches. That's how you do this. So now, I want to give you an example of how this was effectively done by a Nevada rancher.

You may remember the name Cliven Bundy. That's a cattle ranch out in Nevada. And basically, what happened was his cattle were grazing on federal land. And the federal government was trying to charge him for it. And he [00:16:00] wouldn't pay the fees, whatever, he didn't recognize the federal government. He's not a sovereign citizen.

He said he recognizes states rights and state rules. So this article here, from Time Magazine, of all places, the armed rebellion on a Nevada cattle ranch could be just the start. Remember, I said this was like, 2018?

So it says, it could have been a catastrophe. For several days last week, hundreds of angry protesters. Faced off with federal workers on an arid ranch near Bunkerville, Nevada, militiamen squatted among the sagebush and crouched on a highway overpass, cradling guns and issuing barely veiled threats at the government officials massed behind makeshift barricades.

The specter of a violent standoff hung over the high desert. The hair trigger [00:17:00] tension seemed at odds with the arcane. Origins of the dispute and it goes into 20 years ago the Bureau of Land Management that that's one of those agencies that needs to be abolished to Bureau of Land Management, they decided to clear privately owned cattle off this patch of public lands to protect the endangered Mojave Desert tortoise I never heard of such a thing does dozens of ranchers left But Clive and Bundy stayed Bundy 68 has refused to recognize federal authority over the land or to pay the fees for his cattle to graze there So Bundy Bok and the far wing, far right wing media sounded a clarion call for his cause.

Ca Building a critical mass, ladies and gentlemen. Casting the standoff as a flashpoint in a broader struggle against federal oppression, because that's what the BLM is. Federal oppression. A cavalry of patriots arrived, bearing [00:18:00] weapons and a seemingly bottomless grudge against the government. Build a critical mass.

You can bring guns. That's peaceful. I know everybody, oh, why do they need to bring guns? Because it's your right. I didn't say you need armed protesters, but if they want to come, they get to do that. So on April 12th, BLM, Bureau of Land Management, retreated, abandoning the Roundup amid serious concerns over the safety of federal employees.

That's why I said if you build a critical mass and you do this right, it's well planned and it's serious, you will overwhelm government resources to be able to contain this. You gotta overwhelm the resources. BLM look and said, holy, couple thousand people out. It swelled. I think it got up to around 10, 000.

And it just kept showing up.

More [00:19:00] people just kept showing up. Hey, I gotta be a part. Look what's going on over there. I wanna be a part of it. And you know, it just happened organically. Clement Bundy didn't organize this. People were feeling it. They were tired of the oppression of the Bureau of Land Management.

So it says here, for the government, it's not clear what was lost. The decision to de escalate the situation was a wise one, according to officials familiar with the perils posted by such confrontation. Remember, overwhelm government's ability to contain things.

So it says, but prudence may also set a dangerous precedent, having backed down from the recalcitrant rancher. What does BLM do next time another refuses to abide by the law? But see, if you build a critical mass of people and you're well organized, you're gonna win these things. This is peaceful. There wasn't a shot.

There were a lot of armed ranchers. Not a shot was [00:20:00] fired. There's no need to engage in violence.

So it says, I'm very concerned about that, as I'm sure others are, says Bob Abbey, a former BLM director and state director for Nevada. Nearly all ranchers whose animal graze on public land are in compliance with federal statutes. There's always a chance that someone else may look at what happened with Mr.

Bundy and decided to take a similar route. Let me put in a note here, I can, I hope so. Back to the story, the BLM listened to this. Why I said the BLM needs to be gone. The BLM manages more than 245 million acres of land, including about 60 percent of the territories across a swath of 12 western states.

Now check this out. About 85 percent of the [00:21:00] land in Nevada is managed by the feds. Why? It's state land. Why did we allow Bureau of Land Management to move in and take control over state land? Why? Why is the federal government Managing lands out west. The only thing they should be concerned about is the federal district, Washington, D.

C.

So what should we be concerned about? The states can run that. Every, every state has some sort of BLM. That's state parks, right? Trailways. States can handle that. We don't need the federal government. This is how government grows. You create these bureaucracies, the Bureau of Land Management, and the next thing you know they're Controlling 85 percent of land in Nevada.

And why isn't Nevada pushing back on that? And reclaiming that? Go to the feds, get the hell out of here. [00:22:00] We'll manage this federal park, the, you know, all these things that the feds will come up with. Well, we need national parks, we need, the states will take care of it.

So, it says here, former BLM director says, eventually you have to draw the line. We go through these sad episodes where fanaticism, that's not fanaticism, see, when we do it, it's fanaticism. When the left does it, oh, it's just peaceful protest. I mean, they call rioting peaceful protest. But ours is fanaticism.

And like I said, with the Cliven Bundy incident, nobody went to jail. There was no congressional hearing, January 6th style hearing. People going to prison. There's no property damage. Nevada, not a shot was [00:23:00] fired.

Eventually you have to draw the line. We go through these sad episodes where fanaticism has to be brought under legal control. Why? It's protest. What do you mean under legal control?

And inevitably somebody gets killed. He said, well, it didn't happen in Nevada. Actually, the only person who got killed in the January 6th breach of the Capitol was that Air Force veteran.

Her name escapes me, but you know who I'm talking about. Shot by a federal agent. She was unarmed. It was all on video. She didn't present, she didn't present a threat to anybody, the officers. All of a sudden an officer peeks through a door [00:24:00] and, and, and shoots her. It's amazing. But see, the government doesn't want to have to do that because it's not going to look good on the world stage, and the world's going to cover it.

If they get too heavy handed, like government did during the civil rights movement, it's not only going to turn off American people, but it's going to turn off the world. Look what the American government is doing to their own people. The government has to be worried about that. So that's why I said when you organize these things, there's no need to get violent, but let them know you're staying.

As long as you're in a public space, you know, someone might do something. from the government and say, well, we're going to get these people out of here. Well, why? They're not bothering anybody. Well, you know, they're [00:25:00] not bothering anybody. They're on a public space. The public's allowed to go here around the Capitol

and they just said they're not leaving. Really, all the government can do is wait you out. You have to have more determination

than they do.

So that's the model. It can be done, but remember those important. Aspects of this, well thought out, well organized, and serious. Every movement should have a leader, who's giving direction, keeping people in line with the bullhorn, have, let people give speeches, [00:26:00] chants, you know, all that stuff's effective. Wear the government down.

But, you know, like I said, don't, don't, don't count on the Republican political class. Don't do that. That is a waste of time. They're not reliable. 

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